Comments on: Does the Book Community have a Positivity Problem? https://www.uptownoracle.com/does-the-book-community-have-a-positivity-problem/ Living Your Bookish Life ✨ Wed, 03 Jun 2020 19:26:54 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0 By: Monthly Rewind: January 2019 – Cuppa Clo https://www.uptownoracle.com/does-the-book-community-have-a-positivity-problem/#comment-3570 Fri, 10 Apr 2020 11:09:43 +0000 https://www.uptownoracle.com/?p=4199#comment-3570 […] Becky @ Uptown Oracle discusses a really important topic, whether the book community has a positivity problem […]

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By: Ivyclad Ideas https://www.uptownoracle.com/does-the-book-community-have-a-positivity-problem/#comment-1788 Sat, 31 Aug 2019 09:49:01 +0000 https://www.uptownoracle.com/?p=4199#comment-1788 I feel this. Look. I freely admit that I flail about my favourite characters far too much, I gush about the books I love, and I generally try to avod discussing any of my real life drama (though it pops up on occassion…). BUT. That doesn’t mean that I don’t sometimes write negative reviews or go on about my hatred for a novel (PAMELA). I mean, do I feel bad about it sometimes? Sure, but I’m not going to lie. That said, I think there’s a lot of pressure to be positive and only discuss the “right opinions”. I was writing about a tv show the other week and a character had a negative view on suicide. The view made sense for that character and was balanced out by sympathetic views from other characters, but I still felt a need to put up a warning for, not just suicide, but NEGATIVE opinions on suicide. I was convinced that someone would jump down my throat about it, because “problematic” views in media should apparently never be depicted?? Even though that limits creative expression and even the ability to make a nuanced point??

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By: Uptown Oracle https://www.uptownoracle.com/does-the-book-community-have-a-positivity-problem/#comment-1350 Sun, 03 Feb 2019 13:09:24 +0000 https://www.uptownoracle.com/?p=4199#comment-1350 In reply to Brigid.

Oh I agree! I’ve seen a lot of authors who’ve been told they wont be successful as they post about mental health on Twitter?! Which is just ridiculous! I think we should be able to be honest with each other, even if it’s a ‘taboo’ subject like mental health and sexuality! We should be more open to these discussions

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By: Brigid https://www.uptownoracle.com/does-the-book-community-have-a-positivity-problem/#comment-1341 Fri, 01 Feb 2019 03:11:44 +0000 https://www.uptownoracle.com/?p=4199#comment-1341 I agree with this wholeheartedly! I also have been thinking recently about the unwritten rule that you’re not supposed to talk about “negative” things like mental health, etc. because it’s too personal. It’s come up on my Twitter quite often that people are anonymously DM fellow bloggers and writers to tell them it’s “unprofessional” to talk about their mental health, sexuality, or other socially taboo topics or to tell them they shouldn’t write negative reviews or about negative topics. I think it pushes censorship and stigmas to keep this mindset.

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By: Uptown Oracle https://www.uptownoracle.com/does-the-book-community-have-a-positivity-problem/#comment-1239 Fri, 11 Jan 2019 23:02:25 +0000 https://www.uptownoracle.com/?p=4199#comment-1239 ]]> In reply to Isabelle.

I’m glad I could surprise you! I agree on the fun/interesting thing – I also find that I do that a lot and I agree a lot of people aren’t used to the critical thinking aspect! Super happy that you joined in on the discussion with your piece! It was good to hear it from someone who’s used to debating and being critical from school! ❤

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By: Isabelle https://www.uptownoracle.com/does-the-book-community-have-a-positivity-problem/#comment-1236 Fri, 11 Jan 2019 07:17:08 +0000 https://www.uptownoracle.com/?p=4199#comment-1236 ]]> this is honestly the opposite direction I expected this post to take based on the title, but I absolutely agree with almost everything you’ve written here! I actually just noticed recently that I’d started several reviews in a row with “This was fun [but]…” no matter how much I actually liked it, though in my defense I did go on to elaborate on my rating and I did enjoy all of those books to some degree. (“fun” might be my new “interesting” – it’s bland, vaguely positive filler and doesn’t really say anything.) personally it helps that I started out writing reviews just for myself, as a little reminder what I thought of the book so I know whether or not it’s worth rereading in the future or if it’s a good comparison point for future recs – so I don’t shy away from negative reviews, but it does seem like many other people do.

regarding Goodreads specifically, I agree – though I think sometimes it can be unclear whether an author is condoning or condemning something, especially for readers who may not be used to thinking critically (because let’s face it, the education system universally kind of sucks in this regard); so if it’s not being done by an obvious villain and/or the takedown is more subtle, they might miss it. though at the same time there’s definitely lots of readers that, like you said, just don’t want to see “this kind of thing” in their books!

for me personally, a lot of English classes would turn into debates between me and the teacher and maybe a few other kids who’d actually read AND understood the book, so I know that I’m pretty used to just saying what I think, and digging in my heels when someone disagrees – until one tutor called me out on being “too blunt” and now I sometimes catch myself hesitating and sugarcoating or deleting what I was about to say. at the same time, it’s so easy to get into fights with people over the Internet (because I did feel a little defensive when someone tried to shoot down my ideas in class, but mostly I enjoyed the debate; but it’s harder to read tone and intention in text), especially when they’re vehemently disagreeing with you and your instinct is to feel personally attacked: you spent time writing up that review, you put yourself out there, and this is what you get back?? not saying it’s right, but I think it’s an easy trap to fall into.

hm. definitely food for thought, and hopefully a wake-up call to some people to think about their own behavior, as it has been for me ❤

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By: Kelsey https://www.uptownoracle.com/does-the-book-community-have-a-positivity-problem/#comment-1233 Wed, 09 Jan 2019 01:26:25 +0000 https://www.uptownoracle.com/?p=4199#comment-1233 ]]> In reply to Uptown Oracle.

Ugh, I know – I try to stop myself from writing such long comments but I just have a lot of feelings. 😆

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By: Uptown Oracle https://www.uptownoracle.com/does-the-book-community-have-a-positivity-problem/#comment-1232 Tue, 08 Jan 2019 21:56:07 +0000 https://www.uptownoracle.com/?p=4199#comment-1232 I agree with your points and thank you so much for taking the time to write them down to take part in this conversation! I love your point especially about social media - I think some people do fit directly into categories of sub-tweeting or 'blasting' people as soon as they disagree, which often causes drama instead of having a healthy discussion about the topic! I've read Nora's post and loved it, and felt it was a great response to Adeyemi's poor social media decision!]]> In reply to Kelsey.

WOW – this is a post all on it’s own 😉 I agree with your points and thank you so much for taking the time to write them down to take part in this conversation!

I love your point especially about social media – I think some people do fit directly into categories of sub-tweeting or ‘blasting’ people as soon as they disagree, which often causes drama instead of having a healthy discussion about the topic! I’ve read Nora’s post and loved it, and felt it was a great response to Adeyemi’s poor social media decision!

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By: Kelsey https://www.uptownoracle.com/does-the-book-community-have-a-positivity-problem/#comment-1231 Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:32:11 +0000 https://www.uptownoracle.com/?p=4199#comment-1231 ). It’s definitely not wrong to avoid these themes if you choose to, but stories with those themes deserve to be told, too. As far as having quality discussions about things we disagree on – I think the decay of this has a lot to do with the instantaneous nature of social media. Fortunately, for me, it’s gotten easier to weed out those who are in favor of subtweeting or passively aggressively “dealing” with someone who doesn’t think like them, or people who are more interested in using social media to attack or “blast” people when they could just have a discussion, debate, and/or move on (in relation to books and reading). Nora Roberts talks about reckless behaviors on social media in her post, Mob Rule by Social Media, which she wrote in response to the plagiarism accusation from Tomi Adeyemi – I recommend taking a look if you get a chance or haven’t read it already. Thank you for pressing “publish” on this post! 😊 Like others here, and you of course, these things have certainly been on my mind.]]> This is a superb post! I am for critically thought out reviews – whether they are positive or negative. When I’m reading a review, I want to be able to pinpoint why the reviewer liked or disliked the book, or at least learn enough about the elements of the book to be able to make my own choice about whether or not I’m going to read it myself. This is what reviews should be about after all, right? So I don’t necessarily find reviewers less credible if they choose to avoid writing negative reviews, because a few bloggers I follow who do only write positive reviews write really good reviews. I do however, have a problem with reviewers who speak out against negative reviews, but then write positive “reviews” that are only a couple sentences short that simply state (in one way or another): “I liked this book,” or “This book is for everyone” after copying down the summary. “WHY? HOW?” I scream at my computer. And I do typically avoid reviewers whose review posts or videos are basically all sponsorships, or I at least take them with ten grains of salt.

I do agree that criticizing a book just because it includes homophobia, sexism, sexual assault, and/or other heinous acts is ridiculous. It is frustrating when I read a review that says something like “it’s 2018, why do these themes still exist in our books?” (I haven’t yet read a review like that in 2019 – but rest assured I do know what year it is currently 😉). It’s definitely not wrong to avoid these themes if you choose to, but stories with those themes deserve to be told, too.

As far as having quality discussions about things we disagree on – I think the decay of this has a lot to do with the instantaneous nature of social media. Fortunately, for me, it’s gotten easier to weed out those who are in favor of subtweeting or passively aggressively “dealing” with someone who doesn’t think like them, or people who are more interested in using social media to attack or “blast” people when they could just have a discussion, debate, and/or move on (in relation to books and reading). Nora Roberts talks about reckless behaviors on social media in her post, Mob Rule by Social Media, which she wrote in response to the plagiarism accusation from Tomi Adeyemi – I recommend taking a look if you get a chance or haven’t read it already.

Thank you for pressing “publish” on this post! 😊 Like others here, and you of course, these things have certainly been on my mind.

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By: Uptown Oracle https://www.uptownoracle.com/does-the-book-community-have-a-positivity-problem/#comment-1230 Tue, 08 Jan 2019 09:16:48 +0000 https://www.uptownoracle.com/?p=4199#comment-1230 In reply to Kaleena @ Reader Voracious Blog.

Ahh I’m so glad you advocate negative reviews too! So many people seem to misunderstand that negative reviews are often constructive and are there to inform the reader and hopefully let the authors and publisher learn for future books. They take the word negative and get too worked up about it!

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